Is IX the darkest Final Fantasy game? (2024)

  • Feb 17, 2008
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I would have to say this one was definetly the most cruel, seeing that most of these characters were kids, then you see them losing family, a character wondering if he is really living, destruction of a dimension and loss of a mother.

  • Feb 18, 2008
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I don't think FFIX is anywhere close to being even considered dark at all. If anything, maybe Memoria is a bit dreary, possibly Pandemonium as well, but otherwise it's the transition from the Darker games of FFVII and FFVIII to the lighter side of Final Fantasy with FFX.

  • Feb 19, 2008
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...what?

FFX was billions of times more dark than FFVIII ever could have hoped to be.

  • Feb 19, 2008
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Nikkolas said:

...what?

FFX was billions of times more dark than FFVIII ever could have hoped to be.

Damn right it was, a 17 year old girl, goes out to face a gargantuan planet-ravaging monster, and almost everyone is fine with this.

Im sorry but i would never send a 17 year old girl to do what i would not, that would just be weak.

  • Feb 19, 2008
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When the 17-year-old girl can summon giant monsters, I think I'd let her do whatever she wanted.

Me: Yuna, you are NOT going to fight Sin.

Yuna: *summons Ixion* I must. I have to defeat Sin.

Me: Am I supposed to be scared by a unicorn?
*is impaled, electrocuted and dead in one shot*

*game over music plays*

  • Feb 19, 2008
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Lol, its not like she had trouble once she got right to the core of the problem. I think the trouble here is, the themes considered in this story may be the darkest, but the way they potrayed it made it seem less harsh.

For example, the idea of kidnapping and stealing garnet's eidolons was done so that it made Zidane more of a hero, and only really showed it from Zidane's perspective. She also seemed really happy when Zidane rescued her, giving a very happy feel to the situation. The fact that Zidane and the crew didn't keep asking if she was alright also added to the nice-ness, as asking it over and over would repeat on the situation, making it seem less pleasant. The silent part also seemed a little saddening, but rather than everyone dwelling on it, they just carried on as though it weren't that big a deal.

Basically, the character designs were done so that when playing this game, it seems really light-hearted and cheerful, almost like a childs program or game, but when you discuss the ideas behind it, it seems much darker.

  • Feb 19, 2008
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lol yea I thnik that 17 year old girl can handle herself!!
IX was a dark game not just because of a the destruction in it but also everything that is implied along with that. Take Vivi and the fact he and the other mages were a race bred for killing and then there is Zidane own similar struggle learning that he isn't even from Gaia (or maybe even alive), the losses Garnet and Freya experience. This comes together as a dark game from all ways.

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BustaMo said:

I don't think FFIX is anywhere close to being even considered dark at all. If anything, maybe Memoria is a bit dreary, possibly Pandemonium as well, but otherwise it's the transition from the Darker games of FFVII and FFVIII to the lighter side of Final Fantasy with FFX.

lolwut? VIII wasn't dark and X wasn't a lighter game. VIII was just a love story in the middle ground, and X was plenty dark if you actually look past the tropical environments. The Cloverfield monster comes every so often, people sacrifice themselves to get rid of it just for a short time so others don't have to live in fear, the church governing Spira is corrupt and persecutes the Al Bhed, etc. etc. etc. IX was also pretty damn dark if you bother to look past the exterior.

Vincent Crescent said:

Basically, the character designs were done so that when playing this game, it seems really light-hearted and cheerful, almost like a childs program or game, but when you discuss the ideas behind it, it seems much darker.

Yes. That's one thing I like about IX, it LOOKS like a happy little game but when you start paying attention to the events going on and the themes in the game, it's one of the more mature FFs.

Saajin said:

IX was a dark game not just because of a the destruction in it but also everything that is implied along with that. Take Vivi and the fact he and the other mages were a race bred for killing and then there is Zidane own similar struggle learning that he isn't even from Gaia (or maybe even alive), the losses Garnet and Freya experience. This comes together as a dark game from all ways.

That's what I kept trying to tell people Is IX the darkest Final Fantasy game? (10) Plus they're made from mist (i.e.

human/rat/Qu/whatever souls

), so that only adds to the morbidity of the whole thing.

  • Feb 20, 2008
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Having finally finished the game yesterday(XDDD ), I can honestly say that I agree with Ronin-kun's above post.. To be quite honest, I don't personally think that ANY of the games are really very light and happy.. All of them have some really, really dark elements in there... To me, the darkest games in the series between VII and XII were most certainly IX and X..

VengefulRonin said:

That's one thing I like about IX, it LOOKS like a happy little game but when you start paying attention to the events going on and the themes in the game, it's one of the more mature FFs.

Well said. :kuja: :seymour:

  • Feb 22, 2008
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Ok the Darkest FF game is Definitely Tactics.

You can go through a list of all the characters in the game and before the ending the only people who are alive are your party and a couple others.

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The ending? Your whole party and in fact almost everyone left is dead! your whole adventure is forgotten for 200 years and your lame friend gets all the glory. One of the only guys to survive is orlan (Orlandu's Son) and in the epilogue it says he is burned at the stake! Horrible...

I put in my vote for FF5 being rather dark too.... 3 worlds fall apart compared to just 1

  • Feb 22, 2008
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TheSteadfast said:

Ok the Darkest FF game is Definitely Tactics.

You can go through a list of all the characters in the game and before the ending the only people who are alive are your party and a couple others.

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The ending? Your whole party and in fact almost everyone left is dead! your whole adventure is forgotten for 200 years and your lame friend gets all the glory. One of the only guys to survive is orlan (Orlandu's Son) and in the epilogue it says he is burned at the stake! Horrible...

......

You know what? I do believe you're right. I can't believe Tactics completely slipped my mind.

  • Feb 24, 2008
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huh....... wat do ya know!!! i completly forgot about tactics!!

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Alright before this thread gets too off topic, let's bring any further discussion about tactics in this thread.

http://www.finalfantasyforums.net/general-discussion/darkest-ff-game-16917.html

  • Aug 22, 2008
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I don't think FFIX is the darkest. FFIV was pretty dark. If I listed all the moments that I saw as dark moments, I'd almost be re-telling the story of FFIV. But that's just my opinion.

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I can see where the whole "dark" concept comes from. There was a lot of deaths and tragedy in the game; resulting in lots of sadness and struggles.

  • Sep 12, 2008
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I don't reckon that FFIX is that dark tbh, I found VIII and VII much more darker with a more sinister story line. FFIX seemed a lot more upbeat than dark

  • Sep 12, 2008
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IX is notht he darkest, imo, but it does present a tale of sorrow and suffering. It is pretty dark in that sense. However, the game does have a nastalgic charm that makes you feel more warm and happy than anything else. It's overall theme is more cheerful than dark, but it definately presents elements that make it so.
I believe that VII is the darkest, mainly because it feels gritty and dark throughout the adventure. The scale of the darkness felt is far more and the adventure, for the most part, has this depressing feel to it. It's pretty relentless with all the pain and seriousness. It has its moments of cheer but, overall, it's definately a dark and serious journey.

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Did anyone else thinkt that the music that played when you fight Necron is creepy? You can hear the souls of the dead wailing in the background D:


I just read this entire thread again and Rockman wins =P

  • Apr 1, 2010
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Rydia said:

Did anyone else thinkt that the music that played when you fight Necron is creepy? You can hear the souls of the dead wailing in the background D:


I was disturbed by it Is IX the darkest Final Fantasy game? (21) For me it's right up there with the music where you fight Giygas in Earthbound, which I actually had to mute because I was playing it alone in the middle of the night Is IX the darkest Final Fantasy game? (22)

I do think IX is definitely up there as one of the darkest FFs, though I haven't played every game in the series. I think what's cool about it is that it's deceptively dark--for me anyway, I didn't really start to feel it until the party arrived on Terra and spoke with the Genomes, and then suddenly you realize that the happy-go-lucky graphics and music are a front for something really disturbing. And the Necron part was exceptionally eerie. Honestly I'm not sure if I could rank IX as the darkest though, because X depressed me through pretty much the entire game; it had a very prominent theme of death everywhere you went, and the realization that all those Fayth bodies had dreamed up Tidus kind of made me sick to my stomach Is IX the darkest Final Fantasy game? (23) To find out that something so cold and eerie has created you for its own purpose, just...ugh. I think really for me IX and X are a tie for the darkest FF.

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yeah, not really.

I didn't think 9 was all that dark/creepy. The whole alien twist towards the end kinda made it cooler for me. And the ending was really happy. Punk boy gets the princess...happily ever after.

Crisis Core had to be the darkest for me. I cried like my dog just died when they killed Zack. Sure, I knew it was coming, but the way they did it was just horrible. And Aeris is just left waiting for him, with no news ever. Then Cloud comes along and teases her, reminding her of Zack. Crisis Core really made me hate Cloud. He's such a pansy wanna-be. He couldn't even give Zack credit in his own head? What a scumbag. Zack saved his life, and Cloud repays him by stealing his identity (pretty much). The only thing Cloud is good for is some good Yaoi! Maybe with Cloud+Vincent, or Cloud+Zell....Cloud+Tidus....YUM!:yaoi:

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